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Stuff -This wiki has a good mainpage design and css - also this is a good idea --Toa Kopaka Nuva (talk) 23:57, November 1, 2017 (UTC) (Alt of ToaMatau2004)

Thanks for the advice, Toa Kopaka Nuva! I'll keep that in mind. Wikikinetic (talk) 23:20, November 2, 2017 (UTC)


Continued from this discussion.

Okay, thanks for leading me to the fanon wiki. Kind of helps in a way. I just wanted to bring up that the fanbase of LOC is continuing to be great, and I informed of my contribution, but I suppose this particualr wiki is for elements of the chronology rather than the franchise and fandom. But still good wiki, as I am a top fan of LOC.

CabinBoi24 (talk) 17:00, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

Nice to see that you have everything worked out! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next, whatever wiki you're contributing to. In the meantime, I'm going to delete the article over on this wiki, since you now have it safely moved over to a wiki where it belongs. Wikikinetic (talk) 22:21, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

Formatting Questions

Hi Wikikinetic! I had some questions regarding formatting, which I've put together on this page. Would you mind looking at these? I thought that they would make good additions to the Manual of Style. Thanks! TheFelineOverlord (talk) 02:02, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

I have now answered it as best I could. Wikikinetic (talk) 02:11, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

Policy changes

Ok, thanks for telling me. DarkHenrik (talk) 18:29, March 12, 2019 (UTC)

Missing page

Where is the Special:CreatePage? I could't find the link.

UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 02:33, August 7, 2019 (UTC) UmbreonzRule101

Are you wondering where the page you created via the Special:CreatePage utility, or are you wondering where that leads?
Does this answer your question? If not, please let me know, and I can see if it's possible to help further.
Wikikinetic (talk) 01:57, August 8, 2019 (UTC)
I want to add more information about certain Fan Tribe charaters. How do I add information?
UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 04:34, August 11, 2019 (UTC) UmbreonzRule101
You may have noticed an Edit button near the top of each page, like the one you clicked to edit this page? Try clicking those on your target page, and you'll get the classic edit screen, allowing you to add information on the target page. (If the edit button doesn't appear anywhere on the page, try appending ?action=edit to the end of the URL.) Wikikinetic (talk) 21:20, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

Hidden Side Wiki

Hey Wiki Kinetic can the Hidden Side wiki be an official friend of this Chima wiki. several users here are users there.Mysteryman3177 (talk) 14:14, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

Seems like a decent wiki, so given that and the user overlap, I'm happy to make these wikis official friends. Let me just check with the Discord users first to make sure that they're OK with this too before I add the wiki as an official friend. Wikikinetic (talk) 18:07, November 21, 2019 (UTC)
All right, I got a bit of Discord support and no opposition to this (yet, at least), so I'm going to add the Hidden Side Wiki as an official friend for now. If anything comes up that would cause trouble for this, we can talk it over then. Wikikinetic (talk) 18:29, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

IP clarification

What does IP stand for in a fan page? I've seen that I certain titles on the fanmade page. --UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 01:43, December 31, 2019 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Thanks for asking!
Assuming that you're referring to pages like Crocodile Tribe (IP), the "IP" there is a bit complicated, but I can explain.
Having something in parentheses after the page name indicates that the page is a fan version of a canon page (or, alternatively, that the fan page has a page name that many users want), and that that something is the name of the user responsible for creating the fan thing.
As a hypothetical example, if you made a page for the version of Mottrot in your universe, you might call it "Mottrot (UmbreonzRule101)" or "Mottrot (insert preferred shortening of your handle)".
For another, actually existing example, we have the page Season 4 (Picklehazard1). This is because multiple users have at various times made Season 4 pages, so rather than denying all but one the ability to make a Season 4 page or making it seem that one is more "real" than the others, I use this denomination to make it clear that they're all equal and to clarify whose is whose.
Now, back to your question: The reason why "IP" is seen on the pages that I think you're talking about instead of a user name is that these pages were created by IP editors, whose numbers are too long and easily discarded to make sense placing in the parentheses.
Does that answer your question? If not, please let me know what still needs explaining, and I'll be happy to try to help.
Wikikinetic (talk) 03:44, December 31, 2019 (UTC)

Snake Tribe Python spelling

About the Snake Tribe page, it's spelled "Python" because there are real snake species called "Ball Pythons".--UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 21:18, January 1, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

OK, good to know. I'll change where it says "Phythons" there to "Pythons". Thanks for the clarification! :) Wikikinetic (talk) 15:01, January 2, 2020 (UTC)


Who is MammothSupremacy55? What is an "Adaptation" on a Fan page. I noticed someone with the name "MammothSupremacy55" made an edit on my fan page.UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 04:55, January 2, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Well, it seems you've already figured out what an Adaption is, but let me clarify what I think it based on what's been done by you and MammothSupremacy55 (who's User:CabinBoi24, by the way).
It seems that an Adaptation is when someone wants to use the bulk of an existing fan page in their own universe, just with a few tweaks, so rather than creating a whole new fan page, they stick a section at the bottom explaining the modifications in their own universe, implying that everything else on the page is canon for them except where mentioned above. So, for example, MammothSupremacy's Adaptation on your Hyena Tribe page is saying "I'm using most of this page in my canon, just saying that in my canon, the Hyenas are allied with the Wolves, which I understand is not in your canon, just mine".
Does that make sense?
Let me know if you need any more help!
Wikikinetic (talk) 15:01, January 2, 2020 (UTC)

Fan Seasons

Hi Wikikinetic, I want to make some "Fan Seasons" for the Lego Chima Fan Wiki, and I don't want other users to edit my ideas. I wonder if you can help me with this. 

UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 03:47, January 7, 2020 (UTC) UmbreonzRule101

You're in luck, as the Fan Content Policy backs you up here. Not editing other users' fan articles is intended to be the status quo, with that rule only broken by copyediting and similar edits or if the owner allows it. Given that you're not allowing it for these Fan Seasons articles, and especially given that Fan Seasons have never to date been targets for collaborative editing, I don't think that there's anything out of the ordinary that needs to be done. On the off chance that someone does edit one of your Fan Season articles, you or I can then revert them and ask them to stop editing those articles. Wikikinetic (talk) 15:58, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

Upload request

Wikikinetic, I want to be able to upload videos and music for this wiki. UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 00:13, January 9, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Sure thing! Just use Special:Upload to upload your files, and you can put them on your pages just like how you put on images. Wikikinetic (talk) 14:59, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
When I upload music or videos, I need what's called a Destination Filename. What is a Destination Filename? —Preceding unsigned comment added by UmbreonzRule101 (talkcontribs) 23:39, January 9, 2020 (UTC)
It's just like a page name, but for music or videos. Just as you need to name your pages things (like, say, Dolphin Tribe), your files also need to have names (going with my previous example, you might name a music file something like Dolphin Tribe Theme Music). Wikikinetic (talk) 03:11, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Category creation

How do I make a new category? 

UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 06:09, January 10, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Just create a normal page, but with Category: at the beginning of the title. For example, if you wanted to make a category for UmbreonzRule101's Creations, you could create that as Category:UmbreonzRule101's Creations. Wikikinetic (talk) 14:52, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Music problems

There is a problem with the music I posted on Discord. It said it had 0B. Both are ogg files, I have music on my phone, but its music is mp3 instead of ogg. UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 23:38, January 10, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

That is strange...I'll have to take a closer look when I can access a file converter and normal uploading tools on my computer. I'll get back to you when I get that information. Wikikinetic (talk) 03:14, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
Responded on Discord. Wikikinetic (talk) 19:04, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
Wikikinetic, how come mp3 music files don't work in this wiki?
UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 05:34, February 22, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101
They don't work here because, unfortunately, they don't work anywhere on Fandom. If we're lucky, when the UCP comes along, mp3 uploading might be added, but until and unless that occurs, mp3 uploading won't work here, and there's unfortunately nothing I can do about that. Wikikinetic (talk) 06:01, February 22, 2020 (UTC)

Category: Pirate Tribes

Category: Pirate Tribes was supposed to be a Category Page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UmbreonzRule101 (talkcontribs) 17:46, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

It is one. It's just blank, as I thought that having no text was better than having the placeholder "Category Page" text. It wouldn't render on mobile either way until you add it to a page. (For example, if you type [[Category:Pirate Tribes]] at the end of the Dolphin Tribe page, thus adding that page to the category, then the category will render as you might expect.) Wikikinetic (talk) 18:59, January 12, 2020 (UTC)


Good Evening Wikikinetic, I got very annoyed with theses achievement offers about contributing a new page to this wiki every day. I don't want to earn more besides what I have already because it makes me think it is mandatory. UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 07:56, February 2, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Thanks for letting me know about this.
I understand that these things can be very annoying and seem like they're trying to push you beyond where you want to go. Just remember, there's no obligation to get any achievement, even if it wants you to get it. Just do what you want to do, don't do what you don't want to do, and any achievements that you happen to get along the way are a side bonus.
Hope that helps!
Wikikinetic (talk) 19:07, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

Neatly ordered pictures

Hi Wikikinetic! I'm founding a Fandom Wiki, and I want to know how to place gallery pictures in a neat order.

UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 07:01, February 7, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Glad you asked! This is a very valuable tool.
The process takes just three steps:
  1. At the beginning of your group of pictures, write <gallery>.
  2. Add your images, one per line, with just the name of the image, then a pipe, then a caption (e.g. image|caption ).
  3. After your group of images, write </gallery>.
That's it!
If you need any help implementing this, let me know, and I'll be happy to help.
Wikikinetic (talk) 07:17, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
Well first, I need to know what a "pipe" is.
UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 06:08, February 8, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101
It's this character: | You can copy and paste where I just had the character bolded, or you can access it here on iOS, somewhere explained here on Android, or by pressing shift-backslash (⇧+\) on a Mac or Windows keyboard. Wikikinetic (talk) 06:17, February 8, 2020 (UTC)
This still does not help.
UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 06:27, February 20, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101
Just copy-and-paste the markup in the Gallery section of one of your pages, like the Black Crystals page, and you should do fine. (I should have said this to begin with, sorry about that. ^^") Wikikinetic (talk) 07:46, February 20, 2020 (UTC)


I did not want to ask this question, but who is the founder of this wiki? UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 07:06, February 9, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

Probably Jamesster.LEGO. They've been inactive for the last four years, though. Wikikinetic (talk) 08:09, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Editing fan Seasons

Wikikinetic, I want to edit my fan Seasons on mobile, even though I sorta published them. Right now, I can only edit them on a computer. UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 06:08, February 13, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

I have this problem all the time, so I can empathize here.
Usually, the way I edit from mobile is by appending ?action=edit to the end of the URL of the page that I want to edit (replacing any other text beginning with ?). However, for simplicity's sake (and also as examples), I'm going to give you editing links to your fan Season pages that should work from mobile:
Hope all that helps!
Wikikinetic (talk) 20:06, February 13, 2020 (UTC)

Website for downloading ogg files

Wikikinetic, what is the best website to use for downloading ogg file music/videos to upload to my fan pages? UmbreonzRule101 (talk) 07:45, February 15, 2020 (UTC)UmbreonzRule101

I'm not sure what the best would be. If you just need a website to do what you want, though, this website might do the trick: (link)
If that website doesn't work and you need something better, you might try asking Werron on the Chima server. It's possible that he'd know.
Wikikinetic (talk) 17:47, February 15, 2020 (UTC)

Fix the main page

Hi, I wanted to ask you if it is possible to fix the main page because it looks like one of the paragraphs wraps around the image and messes it up. Prankster4343 (talk) 06:31, May 24, 2020 (UTC)Prankster4343

Last I looked, the main page was working exactly as intended. Could you post a screenshot explaining (either via image highlighting or in a response here) what you're referring to? Wikikinetic (talk) 00:21, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

Screenshot 2020-05-24 at 10.45.38 PM
If you look at the right side of the slide show, you can see this weird text lined up vertically next to the slideshow. This is what I was talking about. Also, sorry about the necroposting; I didn't know that was a thing.Prankster4343 (talk) 05:50, May 25, 2020 (UTC)Prankster4343

Thanks for the screenshot; that makes things a lot clearer. I just tried adding a bit of markup to see if that would fix this, but I'm not sure, as the problem doesn't seem to have rendered before on my end (though I believe that it existed on your end). Does the main page look normal now on your end now? Wikikinetic (talk) 04:38, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

It still looks the same as before for me. Prankster4343 (talk) 16:47, May 26, 2020 (UTC)Prankster4343

Weird. Not sure what I can do then. I'll think about it, but that may take a while, so don't count on a solution soon. Wikikinetic (talk) 00:38, May 27, 2020 (UTC)

Interlanguage German


Wikikinetic, I'm Brom from the german Chima. It has been reactivated, could we connect the Wikis with Interlanguagelinks?

Greetings, Brom

Brom 07 60px Kontakt 12:59, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

P.S.: Discord? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brom 07 (talkcontribs) 13:00, June 6, 2020‎
Per your request, I've accepted your friend request on Discord and will talk to you there. :) Wikikinetic (talk) 08:07, June 7, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming

Thank you for welcoming me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripprowl2009 (talkcontribs) 01:22, June 7, 2020‎

That was actually the welcome bot using my name, but you're welcome anyway ;) Wikikinetic (talk) 08:07, June 7, 2020 (UTC)


Apology, I'm sorry for the argument on discord. I'm sorry for the conflicting edits involving fanon content.The Eternal Equalizer 00:54, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

I'd forgive you, except that just after posting this, you proceeded to edit farm, seeming to put your plan from Discord of taking over the wiki into action. Please watch yourself. You can't just apologize and expect me to forget that you're trying to take over, and the apology doesn't excuse your generally disruptive editing here. Wikikinetic (talk) 02:07, August 7, 2020 (UTC)
I didn't edit farm, all I did was fix the images in the set page templates on a few 2013 set articles.The Eternal Equalizer 02:12, August 7, 2020 (UTC)
You made 27 edits in rapid succession. Regardless of the usefulness of those edits, you've told me before that the only purpose of such an edit spree would be to get admins to like you so you'd get made a bureaucrat. This makes it impossible for me to truly believe that you're actually helping the site in good faith. Wikikinetic (talk) 18:02, August 7, 2020 (UTC)


I see there's a questonably canon sentence on the Phoenix Tribe Page."They constructed many cities throughout Chima, which are now in ruins." Is this true I'm not sure if that's true or not. Is there a source saying that?The Eternal Equalizer 00:21, August 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure. You could check the encyclopedia, though. Wikikinetic (talk) 19:51, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
Hey, I think I can help, quoting Fluminox from the end of A Spark of Hope: "This power (The Great Illumination), it demands the eight fire wing harnesses, which are concealed in the very ruins of our ancient phoenix cities." As we know, the eight fire wings are speard all around the land Chima (The spiral mountain, the crocodile swamp, the grand archway and ect.), and that means where there were fire wings- there were the cities. Therfore this information, that there were phoenix cities throughout Chima which are now in ruins, is correct. Tormak Tunnelcat (talk) 20:48, August 13, 2020 (UTC)  
Woah, cool! I'll have to add this as a reference to the page for future notice. Thanks for the citation! :) Wikikinetic (talk) 20:59, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome! I am glad to help! ^^ I am very fluent in the episodes, it is my main source of information, so I can help with whatever I know :) Tormak Tunnelcat (talk) 21:08, August 13, 2020 (UTC)


Should all episodes have links to this page Legends of  Chima (TV_Series)? Like the current version of the Fire Dreaming page.The Eternal Equalizer 00:28, August 21, 2020 (UTC)

Are you saying that some or all don't and should, or that some or all do and some shouldn't? Wikikinetic (talk) 01:41, August 21, 2020 (UTC)
All don't and should. So should I add the link to them all? The Eternal Equalizer 00:34, August 22, 2020 (UTC)
Don't bother. Linking is inconsistent across the articles, and adding an extra link to each of them will probably just make things more confusing. Wikikinetic (talk) 20:29, August 23, 2020 (UTC)
Okay then, I guess I won't add them.The Eternal Equalizer 22:28, August 23, 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate Page

There are two pages for Set 70222 Tormak's Shadow Blazer, There is a stub page called Tormak's Shadow Blazer which is a duplicate. So could you delete this page.The Eternal Equalizer 00:04, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

No. The proper protocol for duplicate pages is to redirect them into the pages they are identical to, which I have now done.
Also, please stop coming to me with these pointless and time-consuming administrative requests. You're wasting my time and not really helping the wiki. (And no, I won't make you an admin so you can do this yourself because you're not really helping the wiki.) If you keep up this sort of behavior, I'm going to have to ban you because you're causing more trouble than you're being a help.
Wikikinetic (talk) 19:03, August 26, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for informing me about redirects I understand that as well.
I found a similar issue:Lego set: 70156 which is a duplicate of 70156 Fire vs. Ice.The Eternal Equalizer 20:45, August 27, 2020 (UTC)

About Frost Formling

Hello, Wikikinetic! I am LuigiMaster41, and I am a user on many wikis! I've just heard word you blocked a user, Frost Formling, and I would like to talk to you about it.

Looking carefully into his contributions, yes, he has made mistakes, however, all of us will make mistakes. You can't expect a user to be perfect when joining, but none of us are perfect. Anyways, you gave him warnings about his mistakes, and you have given him chances. Then you decided to block him. Now, that is reasonable, but here me out on this.

If a user makes mistakes, which is very likely to happen, you can give them reminders, warnings, and if they continue, you can give them a block. However, Frost Formling wasn't blocked at all, and his first block (which you made) was infinite. This is highly unacceptable. You can't just block a user infinitely like that (unless of course if they vandalise, etc.) But that was nothing worthy of a infinite block. At the very least, why not a week block? But no, you choose to make the block infinite. That's not admin-like.

Edit: Forgot to add this, but apparently you and Frost got into a argument on Discord, which led to you warning him? I don't know want happened, but just because a dispute will happen, doesn't mean you get to warn or block him to your likings.

If you want to move this conversation to Community Central, I'm fine with that.

And before you ask, NO, I am not a sock of Frost Formling, just a good friend of his on the Ninjago Wiki.

Anyways, that is my message, and I hope we can get something resolved.

Thanks for reading,

LuigiMaster41 (talk)35px 01:45, August 31, 2020 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for stopping by. I think there's been a grievous miscommunication here, so let me see if I can set things straight.
When Frost Formling first reached out to me on Discord, he explained what he was planning to do on this wiki. This included edit farming to trick another local admin, ToaMatau2004, into giving Frost Formling admin status (an admin who he claimed was involved in his plan pertaining to another wiki, but who clearly had not edited on said wiki in years), as well as implementing changes that would revert community consensus and cause the community to deteriorate. When I resisted these changes, he attempted first to bribe me and then to blackmail me into doing what he wanted. If this sounds crazy, please take a look at these screenshots I took, spanning our entire PM conversation: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)
After Frost Formling's bribing and blackmailing, as you can probably tell from the screenshots, I banned him from the Discord server, as he seemed to be only there to make these unpopular changes. He then proceeded to minorly edit the wiki, but eventually this turned into edit farming as he had described performing in DMs (see screenshot File:FF9.png). I warned him that continuing this behavior would lead to repercussions (see #Apology), leading him to stop doing exactly that...but not to stop carrying out his plan. See below.
Beyond that warning, Frost Formling—after a brief hiatus—began asking me to do one small thing after another on the wiki where the things were difficult to do, had very little actual value, and were things that he could have done himself. As a result, these constant requests mostly just served to inflate his edit count and annoy me. (See the few discussions above this one for details.) Given that, I told him to stop lodging such requests or, given his bad history (as stated earlier in this post), I would ban him. This was intended to make him realize that he should be more constructive by doing something other than his previous explained pattern of behavior; however, he responded by making another such request, so, since I do not give out empty threats, I was forced to ban him. As to why I banned him indefinitely, see below.
In conclusion, I did not merely ban Frost Formling indefinitely over a disagreement on Discord or over an inability to understand that people make mistakes; rather, I banned him over a long pattern of clearly enunciated behavior harmful to the community where, if I had allowed it to continue at all—even after the expiration of a temporary block—it would have had clearly enunciated bad results for the community.
I hope that this explained things adequately. Thank you for listening.
Wikikinetic (talk) 21:44, August 31, 2020 (UTC)

Ok, yeah, you've explained your reasoning perfectly. Thank you and sorry if I sounded harsh or demanding, I thought you were merely abusing your power. Guess I misunderstood. I've talked to him about this. The decision is up to you if you want to lift his block or not.

LuigiMaster41 (talk)35px 18:30, September 1, 2020 (UTC)

Something about a Formling

Hey Wikikinetic. I was recently contacted by the user who uses the Frost Formling username. They tried to talk me into reducing or removing their ban on this wiki. Let's just say i was growing unsure of it... especially after looking into it and reading your side of the story, plus... well, they really came off as not being in the right when they make it sound like they only contacted me, because i am a high ranking user on this wiki who was not aware of these events in order to do something about a ban they believe they didn't deserve. DarkHenrik (talk) 23:48, September 12, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I cannot however give an opinion on this one way or the other, as I have agreed not to speak about Frost Formling in any manner. Wikikinetic (talk) 19:11, September 14, 2020 (UTC)
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